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Contract JACK
I would call this old school, as it's been over 20 years since it came out, and with the recent discussion of the Cold War allegations of certain films, I think this would be a good fit it, because this movie was THE exemplification of the Cold War and the height of it's sentiments during the Reagan era.

The war with the Russians was going on in Afghanistan, and Islamic terrorism was just beginning to heat up in the aftermath of the Iran hostage crisis. Littlle did we know what was to come...


Anyway, while director John Milius wanted a great action flick (which he got) he also was showing us a reverse look at what Afghan youths and people went thru with the Russians, and how guerilla warfare became the norm, as an alternate reality in America was the setting.

I was just wondering what others here at the forum thought of this one..apparently the Russians under the Gorbachev admin. saw it, because allegedly Gorbachev was upset that Americans felt that way...with Afghanistan on the plate at that time, what were we to think?

equinox
I've just done a history essay on the war in Afghanistan, and then I come to the forum to relax, and find this :p

Nicaru
*snickers*

MattParks
I saw this movie at least a couple of times at the neighborhood theater. Funny how many of the political issues it deals with--border security, the difficulties in fighting off "insurgents" after a more-or-less successful invasion--have resurfaced in the good ol' US of A.

Contract JACK
I saw this movie at least a couple of times at the neighborhood theater. Funny how many of the political issues it deals with--border security, the difficulties in fighting off "insurgents" after a more-or-less successful invasion--have resurfaced in the good ol' US of A.

And the movie also touches on the issue of firearms confiscation...remember the scene where the Russain soldier takes the .45 out of the hand of the dead guy laying next to his truck? The truck has the classic "from my cold dead hands" bumper sticker.

Firearms removal is a big issue right now, with liars like Michael Moore and hypocrites like Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton believing NOONE has a right to own a gun (while allowing themselves,their friends and their Hollywood and Wall Street buddies to own one.)

We NEED the U.S. Second Amendment, and every citizen has the right to stand up and defend the country as well as our soldiers and police. And the way things are going, eventually we WILL be disarmed and forced to accept the lesser standard of security from groups like the UN and the EU.

Red Dawn is slowly becoming true, and while not like the movie, the battlefield and the stakes will be the same...we're being whittled away slowly by our enemies and those who defend them...:(

MattParks
(It just wouldn't be a Contract Jack post without a Michael Moore reference) ;)

Contract JACK
(It just wouldn't be a Contract Jack post without a Michael Moore reference) ;)

Well, with Moore, and others like him, there is a move to get America to adopt a lesser standard of security by giving up our firearms..funny considering Moore is NRA and has his own guns. I never thought I'd see the day that LEGAL, law abiding citizens in this country would become the blame for all that's happening. Oh well, when Red Dawn finally does happen, people will wish that they'd have had a way to defend themselves...:(

MattParks
Well, maybe. Although I think the chances that we're invaded by the combined forces of the Soviet Union and Cuba are fairly remote at this point :D

The Upright Man
I actually just bought the Red Dawn/Navy Seals bundle pack for 12 dollars...pretty good buy I thought, although, when I watched Red Dawn, I realized how horrible most 80's action movies are. I did like the part where they killed their buddy, then Swayze went and cried...and you get to see a big snot bubble erupt from his nose.

Contract JACK
Red Dawn was a look at an alternate reality of the American landscape, as a parallell to the Afghan situation at the time

Contract JACK
I actually just bought the Red Dawn/Navy Seals bundle pack for 12 dollars...pretty good buy I thought, although, when I watched Red Dawn, I realized how horrible most 80's action movies are. I did like the part where they killed their buddy, then Swayze went and cried...and you get to see a big snot bubble erupt from his nose.

Yeah, C. Thomas Howell was the hardass in the film, he walked right up to their buddy after they found the tracking device inside of him. he was never the same after the enemy killed his parents, and he was very believable.

I loved the line that Swayze delivers when Charlie Sheen refuses to shoot
the Russian prisoner, asking Swayze, "what's the difference between us and THEM"?

Sawyze takes out his georgeous western model Colt .45 and calmly says, "Because WE LIVE HERE!" I remember in the theatre, when
he said that, everyone got up and cheered, I know because I was one
of them :) Damn right man, we DO live here...

MattParks
Red Dawn was a look at an alternate reality of the American landscape, as a parallell to the Afghan situation at the time
Ironic in retrospect, since we've now invaded Afghanistan. ;)

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